By now you’ve probably read enough WAM! recaps in the past week, and might not be interested in another. But I want to write about it, so …
I heard about WAM! through the blogosphere. I was drawn to the conference, as I said in my interview with Jill Zimon, because of the diversity of presentations and workshops, and because a number of women I met last year at the Allied Media Conference were presenting.
When I arrived, I felt somewhat alienated and alone, which I chalked up to my not knowing many of the attendees. Yet the first invitation I received was a text message from Nadia of No Snow Here, hoping I’d arrived and inviting me to join them (WOC) at the conference. Although I don’t know them as well as they know each other, nor for as long, they welcomed me instantly and warmly.
I assumed, or hoped, that the rest of the attendees at the conference would welcome everyone in the same spirit. That same day, however, I was proven wrong. At a conference as large as this, I didn’t expect everyone would take the time to introduce themselves and make themselves available to everyone else - the conference was only so long, after all - but I sensed a clear distinction between women of color and white feminists in their interaction with others. As the conference moved from the networking event to the reception and keynote speaker Helen Thomas, the divide grew more stark, with WOC sitting together in a sea of white feminists. That was unfortunately a mark of how the rest of the weekend evolved.
I attended several workshops, including “Here We Go Again: Bad Stories About Women that Never Die,” “Raising Women’s Voices/Building Women’s Power: Collaborative Approaches to Strategic Communications for Social Justice,” and the film “Silent Choices” on reproductive rights. While these were informative, two presentations stuck with me more than others: “Immigration in the U.S.: The Women’s Rights Crisis Feminists Aren’t Talking About” and “We B(e)lo(n)g: Womyn of Color and Online Feminism.” The panel on immigration was exceptional because finally someone was talking about the New Bedford Raids in MA, where police apprehended 361 people, mostly immigrant women who suffered physical and emotional abuse at the hands of their captors. The presentation highlighted the cruelty of immigration enforcement directed towards human beings regarded as defenseless and invisible; it focused on an inhumanity that is rarely discussed, and the need for action. At one point during the film clip about the raid I became so distraught at watching these women suffer - women who could be my mother, my grandmother, or my sister - I had to leave the room so I could break down in private. I knew my tears were a poor excuse for action, but I was simply overcome with emotion.
The panel “”We B(e)lo(n)g: Womyn of Color and Online Feminism” was by far the high point of the conference. It began with introductions, a short film clip by Sudy on WOC in the blogosphere, and then each panelist read a “wish” poem she’d written. Rather than sit at the tables in the front, they instead came to the side of the room with the attendees, and asked each of us to give our wish. They did not talk at us, but with us; it created a safe, loving space for everyone. My wish was that there would be a space like this wherever I went.
The panel on immigration was a mixed group, although I wondered if the title had contained the phrase “women of color” and all the panelists were WOC would the participation have been as diverse - especially since “We B(e)lo(n)g” was almost completely WOC. A lot of white feminists seemed to regard presentations or workshops about women of color as exclusive to women of color, and wanted to “respect” that space. They might have considered taking part, but apparently didn’t want to intrude. This assumption has now become the escape route for white feminists to not participate, to not open themselves up to be in a new and potentially uncomfortable space. Not one person did what any normal human being would do, ask “May I participate, or is this only for women of color?” Therein lies the real problem. My roommate (Metha) at the conference, and Black Amazon’s Wifey, both white women, joined us everywhere we went, including the Queer Women of Color and Friends reception/party. They didn’t assume they couldn’t take part; they just came along. If you don’t make it a big deal, then it isn’t!
Metha says she trying to envision ways in which WAM!, or other conferences, could better create spaces for dialogue with people from different backgrounds. Along with a panel on women of color, for example, have a panel of women from a wide range of backgrounds to discuss and debate the same issue, but from a variety of perspectives.
The rest of the conference felt like us trying to hold onto the love we created in the “We B(e)lo(n)g” workshop, instead of being able to share it with everyone outside. The divide was still there. I got the distinct impression that we had been given permission to participate in a small way, but not as equals, not as leaders of the same movement.
I’m not the first person to say this, and since the conference there has been an outpouring of reaction as a result. Some have dismissed our reactions as negative or angry; suggesting if we aren’t part of the solution (as they define it) then we’re part of the problem. Sounds like Bush: “Yer either with us or agin’ us!”
But isn’t that what the feminist movement was supposed to be about? Standing up for your rights, for equality, using that anger as a force for change? If we are now only defining that as reactions of women of color, as abnormal or damaging, then the feminist movement has ceased to exist, or can no longer define itself in the terms it once could. If women of color (POC) are the only people willing to express our anger and act on it, then it’s with us that you will find real change!
For a much more profound and detailed critique on the feminist divide, read Jessica Hoffman’s OpEd: On Prisons, Borders, Safety, and Privilege: An Open Letter to White Feminists (AlterNet, April 4, 200 
*Correction: Jill from Feministe did make a point of asking if the We B(e)lo(n)g session was for WOC only.
April 8, 2008 at 8:05 am
actually one (1) person, jill from feministe did ask, is the session only for WOC or can i come to listen?
April 8, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Adele, I’m grateful for you and Jessica (and many others) to write what you’ve written about this issue. At least 50% of what you’ve both written covers perspectives about which I know pretty much nothing.
I want to say these things in a way that does not cause anyone to be defensive, but perhaps that’s not possible. So since we struck up a kind of rapport, I’m going to put myself out there and trust that you hear me the way I am trying to say this - which is with sincere “I’ve never thought about much of this before!” curiosity.
1. Labels. I can’t get over all the labels being used. I’m almost 46, and when I majored in sociology and then was getting a masters in social work, labels were not our friends. I still feel that way.
And yet, labels are all over the place in the WAM discussions around the issues you and Jessica and many others have raised.
This has really perplexed me. Are they embraced? Are they now deemed necessary? What is their role? Because I’ve always eschewed them. Is an adjustment needed - and who needs it (that is, use them less or use them more)?
(Again - this is earnest asking - harder to convey on the screen than if you could see me!)
2. I never took a women’s studies course. I’m not even sure my college had them! I would of course hope so, but I didn’t know about them (and I wasn’t looking for the either to be fair).
So, it’s been a self-guided tour toward WAM that I’ve taken over three decades and I’m thrilled I landed there two weeks ago.
But here’s my thought: if the ideas and perspectives you, Jessica and others have are to gain a greater foothold in the very groups that some WAM attendees are saying need to embrace it, then doesn’t WAM need to continue to attract women like me? Women who are curious, open, but clueless?
I’m being a little hard on myself here but maybe there is an orientation to WAM piece that would be helpful. Maybe for first-timers even. To apprise us of all there is and will be going on around us.
3. Let me back up from that for a minute. I was attracted to WAM because of the three words in the three words in the title: Women, Action, Media. I am interested in all three. That’s what I read - that’s why I wanted to find a way to be there (this year, as press, next year as an attendee - I learned my lesson!).
Although a few people have called me radical, a few more have called me progressive and a few have called me a neo-con, I don’t pay much attention. I continue to push and prod on what concerns me, period.
But the goal, to push and prod (in moderate or radical ways), hasn’t been the focus of my life’s work through now. My life’ work HAS involved doing that, but not as an end in itself.
I sense that for many WAM attendees, the action piece is the primary focus. For me, the media and women piece has been more primary, and I’m just now getting more into the “action” piece.
I think that this observation is important because it goes to the idea that we aren’t all there for the same reasons, or weren’t attracted to WAM by the same expectations. But that doesn’t mean and shouldn’t mean that the experience won’t be so much more.
4. Which brings me to the last point. I sleep well knowing that there are people who are willing to push the envelope when I’m not and who are willing to fill that envelope when I wouldn’t even think to do so. I want to learn from such people and push myself to do more.
It seems to me that WAM can have a big tent attraction ad persona with a smorgasbord of goals that can be met, depending on who you are and why you are there.
As someone who is still so limited in her knowledge of so many of the issues that were broached at WAM but someone who is endlessly curious, too strong an identity in any one direction could diminish my attraction to WAM.
I am not saying that I am the people to attract - that would be a very clueless statement indeed.
But, in addition to all the already vested and active attendees, isn’t the way to grow that number to continue to attract women like myself?
Which brings me back to my first observation about labels: I don’t like being labeled. I don’t know many people who do, but that might say more about the people I know.
Calling me or thinking of myself as a “white feminist class-privileged woman” doesn’t make me want to come hang out and learn about others’ strife. But appealing to my humanity, period, does.
Educating me about what I don’t know - good. Telling me what others think I am and how I impede things, not as good.
Teaching me reality - fine. But done in a way that can only result in making me feel badly as opposed to telling me how I can be part of the change - not so fine.
I’ll try to close with this: I know I really want to learn and do what I can. I know about being uncomfortable and what that discomfort can cause people to do. But, as you’ve written, I also know what alienation can do to dampen and damage the possibilities of growth - individually and into action.
My experience at WAM, coming from where I come from - literally and figuratively, was truly unexpectedly outstanding. I would hope that if we’re truly interested in galvanizing the dormant, then a gathering like WAM would want to attract more women like myself, not fewer. Because only by being around women like you and so many others, can I get infected with the urge to learn more and act more.
Wow - thanks for letting me write this. Ack - I’m hitting submit!
April 8, 2008 at 5:56 pm
also, great post!!! =D
April 8, 2008 at 7:58 pm
I don’t like being labeled. I don’t know many people who do, but that might say more about the people I know.
Calling me or thinking of myself as a “white feminist class-privileged woman” doesn’t make me want to come hang out and learn about others’ strife. But appealing to my humanity, period, does.
Educating me about what I don’t know - good. Telling me what others think I am and how I impede things, not as good.
Teaching me reality - fine. But done in a way that can only result in making me feel badly as opposed to telling me how I can be part of the change - not so fine.
I’ll try to close with this: I know I really want to learn and do what I can.
no, actually, you don’t want to learn and do what you can. you want to continue doing what you do, and make adele STOP what she is doing and concentrate on finding JUST the right way to speak to you so that you’ll not feel offended when talked to. Jesus, what would you do if some man said to you “I don’t like feeling like I’m complicit in sexual violence just because I’m a man. If you want me to pay attention to your plight, stop implying that I”m complicit–stop calling men rapists, stop calling men sexists–I may be a man but I’m not a rapist. Encourage and support me–then I’ll listen to you!” (not–then I’ll change–but then I’ll *listen*).
April 8, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Brownfemipower - Thanks for responding.
Are you saying that labeling is necessary?
April 8, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Brownfemipower - I just spent about 15 minutes or so browsing your blog. You have great resources for their for someone like me who has written here that I know I am clueless about at least 50% of what was going on at WAM. My comment also shows that I know at least a little of what I don’t know - and maybe a whole lot more.
Why didn’t you just say, “You know what? You need to start at the beginning” and tell me to go to your blog? I’ve found it now, and I can see you’ve got suggestions for people exactly like me on your “Comment Policy” page.
I am serious - why would you come all at someone you don’t know rather than say, “Ok - you ARE clueless - go read up first would you”?
Even you say that your blog is an advanced radical WOC site.
I’m not sure why you think I’m telling Adele to find “just the right way to speak” to me.
I wrote about how I felt about WAM. I’m not sure why you are trying to invalidate it. I’m also not out here saying I’m proud that I never knew about so much before.
Anyway - I’m rambling.
I’m glad you’ve got those suggestions on your site. I have a starting place now, whether you meant it to be or not. Thank you.
April 9, 2008 at 2:43 am
Jill, do you realize the privilege in saying you don’t like to be labeled to a woman who identified as a woman of color? That’s the same song and dance I hear all the time from folks who wear rose colored glasses and don’t want to apply “labels.” BFP shouldn’t have to tell you to go educate yourself, lest of all why should she tell you to go to her blog and start the whole kumbaya thing there?
Brown people are not here to educate you on women of color issues, on race issues on why not owning up to the privilege in saying you won’t take the label of “white feminist class-privileged woman”
Teaching me reality - fine. But done in a way that can only result in making me feel badly as opposed to telling me how I can be part of the change - not so fine.
what way is the correct way then, is there a formula you would want WOC to use to “teach” you?
April 9, 2008 at 6:26 am
jill, in reading your feelings about being labeled and how you would like to be treated, i do *understand* where you’re coming from, but i strongly disagree with you. i am a white woman who, eight years ago, was literally sent by accident to a people of color conference through my high school. they thought they were sending me to a general peer leadership conference. that was where i first heard terms like “white privilege,” and “white feminist class-privilege woman,” and i was very uncomfortable t but not because they were wrong - i reacted as they did because when i really opened myself up to the ideas being shared with me, i knew they were right.
we live in a country and a world that is based on labels. and those labels are often used to create and uphold oppression. those of us who can ignore them, or ask that they not be used are able to do so because of privilege, and whether we call it that or not doesn’t change a thing. as well, just because one person does not want to use a label does not mean that someone else feels the same.
open your mind and keep learning. that being said, i want to echo bfp and noemi’s points about telling others how to engage and educate you. to really be an ally and support women of color, you need to de-centralize yourself.
April 10, 2008 at 3:29 am
Thank you Noemi and Katie.
Noemi - I’m pretty sure I left a comment here last night but I think WordPress has been kind of funky today so I’m sorry it’s not here and I don’t know if you saw it.
The gist was that brownfemipower left a comment - I’m glad she did, but she certainly didn’t have to, I don’t think. But it gave me another place to go. It’s a rich, deep site - like so many of the ones I’m learning exist that I never knew about before.
I feel like we’re talking past each other but maybe I shouldn’t be surprised and maybe that itself is the place where learning starts.
I learned a long time ago (was taughter and agreed with the teaching at that time) that labels equal stigma. And stigma is not good. And I agree with that, As a general porposiation.
Now as I read and read and read here and other places, I am seeing that something else is being done/has been done/was being done with labels that isn’t seen as stigmatizing in quite the way I learned about it.
I heard a phrase this evening - shifting consciousness - that I’ve never heard before and I think it really describes where I am in understanding - learning - about ideas, ideology, POV that are unfamiliar to me.
I don’t know how else to learn, to know than to ask - whether it’s of myself or of people who invite me ot ask or are people I know know something.
My being inquisitive isn’t intended to make anyone feel put upon. Of course I am sorry if it’s being read that way - it’s NOT what I’m intending. But just like you say to me, what is the correct way for WOC to teach (and of course I realize in how you write that that that’s not what should be done - or what you would want done), likewise I would say - what is the correct way to inquire? I kind of thought I was doing that - but your comment indicates that I’m not.
I’m fine with following the protocol for learning about WOC - I didn’t realized I’d violated it - and I mean that seriously - not with snark.
I think doing so - trying to learn in a such a one-dimensional place as the internet can be very hard, but not impossible.
Thanks for even responding. I’m hopeful that I’ll figure it out and keep on with the journey of learning.
April 10, 2008 at 3:33 am
Katie - a few days ago, I totally wouldn’t have been familiar with or understood your comment - but since then, since WAM, honestly, I’m wading in. Thank you - the way you describe it helps me enormously. I don’t mean to be so brittle about what I can and cannot understand - hopefully I’ll get unbrittle sooner rather than later.
Like I wrote in the next post by Adele, she makes a fabulous suggestion and case for getting involved - for seeing a role being played and figuring out how to use what you have - where you are and so on. I am going to really work at taking that to heart and learning what this is all about.
My poor friends who are WOC or POC! They do not know the barrage of conversation I hope to engage in to better figure out where everything and everyone fits in - doesn’t fit in or needs to go.
Thanks
April 11, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Why didn’t you just say, “You know what? You need to start at the beginning” and tell me to go to your blog? I’ve found it now, and I can see you’ve got suggestions for people exactly like me on your “Comment Policy” page.
I am serious - why would you come all at someone you don’t know rather than say, “Ok - you ARE clueless - go read up first would you”?
Even you say that your blog is an advanced radical WOC site.
I’m not sure why you think I’m telling Adele to find “just the right way to speak” to me.
@ Jill
My guess is the reason BFP thought you were telling Adele to find “just the right way to speak to you” is summed up in the quotation above. You’re criticizing BFP for not handing you information in a way that you would find palatable.
Criticizing someone’s tone is often a way to derail an argument about race or gender. Despite your feeling about how BFP commented, you still managed to go to her site and absorb information. Why do you think she is hear 1) to educate you 2) to make you feel good while doing so?
And if you want to know why WOC aren’t always super polite and careful in how they let white women know about their racism? Because it is fucking exhausting to do that. You’re not the first person to ask. You won’t be the last. It’s a form of privilege to assume a POC should teach you about racism when you ask. Presumably you are already aware that racism exists. Why haven’t you already educated yourself about it? The internet is filled with sites that talk about the intersection of racism and feminism. The library is filled with books on this issue. You were able to educate yourself about feminism, why is it that you couldn’t do the same about racism?
April 14, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Julia - I understand, today, what you wrote, but two weeks ago, I wouldn’t have. And that’s because I’d never encountered anything like WAM before or read bloggers/writers/thinkers like Adele, BFP or many others before.
Do you really want to know why I haven’t educated myself about racism before? Or is that a gotcha question to tell me more about the concept of privilege that I’m in the middle of learning about - and not even the middle - that’s too kind - I’m barely in the embryonic stage! But I’m trying to move past that.
I actually have not educated myself about feminism either - what I know is from what I have seen around me or been presented in the media - I’ve read more in the past two weeks about feminism through the WAM-tagged blog posts than I’ve read in my life.
Why do you think that I think that anyone is “here” to educate me or make me feel good while doing so?
I don’t think that but I do think that the worst anyone can do when anyone else asks a question is say, “no.”
Not being able to ask people questions seems to me to be a form of intimidation, control, shutting down conversation, disinterest in engaging and a desire to keep things secret.
I realize that the other side, or part of the other side, is the exhaustion you mention. That’s fair - I’ve been reading that in many places and I can see how that happens.
But do you know that sometimes people ask questions because they want to learn? And in the sexist society I grew up in, not answering someone’s question was the same as saying you don’t matter, what you think doesn’t matter, you can’t learn, we don’t want you to know and other negative things.
The teach yourself part of learning about racism? This is a very odd concept to me - because if I’m white and privileged, and I’m directing what I learn - I don’t know - that just seems awfully narrow.
How do I know - what are the signs for when it’s “okay” to engage with WOC on these questions? When will I “know” enough to have questions accepted as dialogue?
Are answers to those questions in the books I should find on my own too?
I don’t know, Julia - it’s a very new idea to me re: how anyone learns about anything. But then, two weeks ago, I didn’t even know what WOC meant.
April 15, 2008 at 3:03 am
The teach yourself part of learning about racism? This is a very odd concept to me - because if I’m white and privileged, and I’m directing what I learn - I don’t know - that just seems awfully narrow.
Is there any particular reason you couldnt ask other white women who are or have been educating themselves about racism, to give you information and education?
Not being able to ask people questions seems to me to be a form of intimidation, control, shutting down conversation, disinterest in engaging and a desire to keep things secret.
No, its a way for people who are truly interested in taking responsibility to do so, by educating themselves in a way that does not lay the burden on the people who may already be adversely affected by their ignorance.
And you know what? There are some things that people of color desire to keep secret. Thus?
April 15, 2008 at 6:02 am
Delux - thanks
One of the main reasons I couldn’t ask white women who are or have been educating themselves about racism is because…I don’t actually know any! I know several WOC, however, who are very much involved - several journalists in fact, the political party neighborhood organizer, a WOC with whom I share column-writing duties for a magazine. And an editor of an excellent urban education magazine who is a phenomenal WOC. The person who got me started in writing? A WOC.
But - if this helps a teeny bit, I have read with great interest the comments I’m seeing around different blogs that appear to be be made by white women who are further along in understand than I am. Deaan Zandt for example wrote a great post today - but it’s not exactly the history of kind of thing but it’s repreentative of how I feel. So I would ID her as someone from whom I could learn.
So if what you are saying, in part anyway, is to find women (or men I guess) who have traveled a certain journey to being antiracist and understanding POC and learn from that, that makes good sense. And I would add to that that, as a journalistm my instinct is always to go to the primary sources - I see WOC and POC as primary sources for information - rather than hearsay. I trust it more.
You wrote, “No, its [not being able to ask questinos] a way for people who are truly interested in taking responsibility to do so, by educating themselves in a way that does not lay the burden on the people who may already be adversely affected by their ignorance.
And you know what? There are some things that people of color desire to keep secret. Thus?”
You make a good point in here about keeping something secret and taking responsibility and not laying burden on people already affected by ignorance. I will keep that in mind.
When I write about the use of not answering as being intimidation, I’m talking about the Pavlovian response as a result of emotional abuse that involve being shutdown without any other methods for learning. That personal history of mine has nothing to do of course with the search for understanding and a way to become a more active person in certain causes, except that my reaction, when told not to ask questions is, “I’m being shutdown, I’m being imprisoned” - so I was trying in my comment to convey that there are unhealthy relationships in many places that use the refusal to answer questions as intimidation and so on. Just think of the Bush Administrations constant refusal to answer questions. They seek to intimidate - they are not seeking to have us find another resource on our own.
Does that explain another experience of that direction a little better?
April 15, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Well I guess that depends on the goal here. Are you trying to learn about women of color or trying to learn about dealing with your own racism? It seems to me that appropriate ‘primary sources’ for the latter would be white people who are making an effort to deal with their own racism and act as allies to people of color.
Which is why I dont understand why women of color are expected to help you nurture your own awareness of what is essentially your issue. Perhaps you could google ‘white allies against racism’? There may actually be entire websites dedicated to the topic…
I understand your point about silencing and relationships but the actual power dynamic between women of color and white women would pretty much negate that in my opinion.
*waves* Hi Adele! sorry to get all up in your blog but I just… you know.
April 15, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Delux - this is a great distinction and one which I really haven’t been able to make as I’ve been trying hard to just get a grip on so much conversation that I’ve not even learned the language for yet:
“Are you trying to learn about women of color or trying to learn about dealing with your own racism? ”
Both, without hesitation I can say. Which is why I wrote, “So if what you are saying, in part anyway, is to find women (or men I guess) who have traveled a certain journey to being antiracist and understanding POC and learn from that, that makes good sense. And I would add to that that, as a journalistm my instinct is always to go to the primary sources - I see WOC and POC as primary sources for information - rather than hearsay. I trust it more.” which I think actually answers both but in a combined way - though I didn’t mean it to be confusing.
So yes - the idea of googling for such groups is a good idea re: allies.
But as for learning more about WOC, then well there’s the primary source piece and I’m trying to do that by reading, reading, reading but also hope to have conversations during which I can listen to WOC as well.
I would like to say that if I hadn’t started by reading, I never would have even have HEARD of the term “allies” in the context being used in this thread and in other blogs that discuss POC. So, while i know I cannot hide behind the “I’m just learning” thing for very long, it truly was barely two weeks ago that I’d first heard of so many of these terms and gotten to see how they’re used/defined. I’m sure I’ve only scratched the surface.
I know you won’t answer this if you feel you don’t need to or can’t, but here’s something that has been puzzling me since first hearing phrases like allies and WOC etc.: in all the years I’ve worked for and been mentored by WOC, and that’s nearly 8 years now, why have I never once been called or told or been referred to as a white feminist who is class privileged? I am remembering what’s been said and what I’ve written about this expectation that I learn and research for myself, but is that the only part of it?
Let me give you an example: people who convert to Judaism rarely tell you that and as a Jew, I’m not supposed to ask or point it out. Is there something like that working here as well?
Again - please - I KNOW about being naive - I’m NOT looking to get something started EXCEPT understanding.
So if you ignore the question, I get it. I actually asked a WOC friend this yesterday on the phone and she laughed but didn’t give a response.
Anyway - I don’t know much about the “power dynamic between women of color and white women” or how it would negate the silencing etc. But….that’s just another thing to google.
Thank you - sincerely.
April 15, 2008 at 10:54 pm
“why have I never once been called or told or been referred to as a white feminist who is class privileged? ”
If someone that you know refused to give you a straight answer to this, I as an internet stranger am not in a position to help…
April 16, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Jill,
I think it’s time to end these comments and start a discourse on your blog. You have been able to consider quite a few things here and dialog with a number of different people. I would love to come over to your blog/site and see where you go from here.
I recommend picking up a small anthology called “And don’t call me a racist!” arranged by Ella Mazel. I have two copies, I can mail you one if you can’t find it.
In her dedication, she says she learned that “nice” white people can be racist even when they think they’re not. I’m not saying that’s you, it’s simply a powerful way to start considering some of the questions you pose in this thread.
April 16, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Thank you, Adele. No worries re: someone being a nice white person who is racist who thinks she isn’t. I’m quite sure I haven’t been able to figure it out at all - a la Deanna Zandt’s essay. But I’m blogrolling and reading as much as a I can. Looking forward to a lot more research, learning and listening as you call it. And hopefully action.
April 16, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Jill,
Please keep me updated.
Adele
May 6, 2008 at 6:07 am
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